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i like chuck hagel. if he gets it, i'm fine with it. >> suppose your guy won the race the guy you thought would win. and he put boldin in, the strange mustache guy. would they have put him in there? >> i don't think romney would have put bolton in. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. that's behind us. that turkey's behind us. >> we got others. >> we have lived through bill clinton. whatever you say about bill clinton, he knew how to deal with these people saying shut down the government. go ahead. i'll have my pizza. you go ahead. >> he'll have other things. >> whatever else you say. what happened? newt looked like a fool. he looked like a fool. so can this president show that kind of guts? first you because you're for him. >> well, i think we're going to see the debt ceiling fight first. >> that's what i mean. >> he feels so passionately -- >> will he tell them to go guest lost? >> in the book i had out last year -- >> what's the name of the book? >> "showdown." the first time he got in his aides said
i like chuck hagel. if he gets it, i'm fine with it. >> suppose your guy won the race the guy you thought would win. and he put boldin in, the strange mustache guy. would they have put him in there? >> i don't think romney would have put bolton in. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. that's behind us. that turkey's behind us. >> we got others. >> we have lived through bill clinton. whatever you say about bill clinton, he knew how to deal with these people saying...
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colin powell referred to hagel as having a diminished public record. he will be as secretary of defense the first grunt as it were ever to serve as secretary of defense and powell said because he put his own life at risk he would be the best suited person to be in charge of other lives. it is clear that the white house feels very confidently that this will go forward even though there are questions. >> as we continue to look at the president's team as he starts to make nominations. we saw secretary of labor resign last week. we will look at names that might resign. steven chu one of the names. any word on them departing anytime soon? >> reporter: those are good questions. we don't know just yet. it is familiart that there would be a changing of the guards between a first and second term. as it goes in churmz of steven chuit remains to be seen. some names would be byron dorgen, the democrat from north dakota. governor of the state of washington as well as jennifer gran. we know of one likely departure that we should hear about. that is a name not famili
colin powell referred to hagel as having a diminished public record. he will be as secretary of defense the first grunt as it were ever to serve as secretary of defense and powell said because he put his own life at risk he would be the best suited person to be in charge of other lives. it is clear that the white house feels very confidently that this will go forward even though there are questions. >> as we continue to look at the president's team as he starts to make nominations. we saw...
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my concern is after hagel and i think hagel will probably get confirmed after the hearings, after hagel, who's to follow? what is the trail of people who do have combat experience? who will follow hagel? i'm concerned about this. >> let's bring you in and transition from hagel because you have a lot of progressives and even actually today one republican and we'll play the sound a little bit later wondering whether or not john brennan is getting some kind of a pass here. there was a protest yesterday outside of the white house. not about chuck hagel but john brennan, the role in the bush administration regarding aggressive interrogation techniques, his role regarding the drone missions that continued through the obama administration as politico points out today, even reviving this dispute over leaks or alleged leaks out of the white house. are we not paying enough attention to brennan when, again, there were actual protests outside the white house yesterday regarding his nomination? >> well, in terms of the confirmation process, what doesn't -- protests outside the white house matter a l
my concern is after hagel and i think hagel will probably get confirmed after the hearings, after hagel, who's to follow? what is the trail of people who do have combat experience? who will follow hagel? i'm concerned about this. >> let's bring you in and transition from hagel because you have a lot of progressives and even actually today one republican and we'll play the sound a little bit later wondering whether or not john brennan is getting some kind of a pass here. there was a...
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hear from senator hagel about the issues. he's a guy with a distinguished record, and i'm going to listen he's a guy with a distinguished recor[ male announcer ]o listen playing in the nfl is tough. ♪ doing it with a cold, just not going to happen. vicks dayquil -- powerful non-drowsy 6-symptom cold & flu relief. ♪ no matter what city you're playing tomorrow. [ coughs ] [ male announcer ] you can't let a cold keep you up tonight. ♪ vicks nyquil -- powerful nighttime 6-symptom cold & flu relief. ♪ . . >>> thank you all for a terrific discussion this morning. that is all for >>> good monday morning. right now -- a major showdown is brewing in washington as president obama prepares to name his pick for the next secretary of defense. >>> extensive new details today in the case of james holmes accused of gunning down 12 people at a colorado movie theater last summer. >>> and hillary clinton gets back to work. >>> good morning. the white house is confirmed that today president obama will announce former nebraska senator chu
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for hagel. and those discussions about he's outside the mainstream, we should have a vigorous debate of chuck hagel, then we're smear merchants? we say he's outside the mainstream and reason for debat debate. >> are there questions around israel and security and you can allay your concerns and even some republicans. >> i think over the next several years this administration has to be dealing with iran and syria and really complicated issues not just about israel. he should explain why his world view is so not only outside the mainstream of the congressional bipartisan congressional consensus, outside the administration's consensus. even yesterday in an interview he gave, he said the reason he opposed certain sanctions in congress because they didn't work. those are some of the sanctions today the administration says is key to the success in iran and why the economy is still weakening. he's saying those sanctions didn't work. he needs to explain. >> he'll have that opportunity. >> richard, you lo
for hagel. and those discussions about he's outside the mainstream, we should have a vigorous debate of chuck hagel, then we're smear merchants? we say he's outside the mainstream and reason for debat debate. >> are there questions around israel and security and you can allay your concerns and even some republicans. >> i think over the next several years this administration has to be dealing with iran and syria and really complicated issues not just about israel. he should explain...
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the white house is trying to sell, meanwhile, back on hagel, trying to sell hagel's personal story. and no one may tell that better than his brother, tom, who served alongside him in vietnam and described to nbc how they narrowly escaped death together. >> the concussion was incredible. it knocked us both down. and he was behind me and i looked back and he was flat on his back, blood all over his chest. so i went back. things come up where he's being criticized for this or that or the other thing, or we're both having problem. we look at each other and say, you know, what can they do to you? send you back to vietnam? >> that all may be true. on the importance of this response, that the number two democrat in the senate, new york's chuck schumer, gave to "the wall street journal" when asked about hagel's nomination. >> you owe the president, no matter what party you are and what party he is, a right to hear his nominee. so i want to hear directly from chuck hagel. i'll let him make his case. all i can say is that i have an open mind and i'm ready to sit and listen to him. >> do you t
the white house is trying to sell, meanwhile, back on hagel, trying to sell hagel's personal story. and no one may tell that better than his brother, tom, who served alongside him in vietnam and described to nbc how they narrowly escaped death together. >> the concussion was incredible. it knocked us both down. and he was behind me and i looked back and he was flat on his back, blood all over his chest. so i went back. things come up where he's being criticized for this or that or the...
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can you be for senator hagel? i mean, in some ways he was the chairman of your -- co-chair of your campaign in 2000. he would seem to be your kind of guy. a veteran. a guy who's been shot at -- >> he's a veteran. he's a friend. and by the way, in this process usually with previous presidents, both republican and democrat, when they're considering nominations they call in the other side and say -- the key members on the other party and say i'm thinking about nominating mr. x, what do you think about it? there's been none of that with this administration. >> the gop opposition to these cabinet nominations also comes amid some calls for filibuster reform to make it more difficult for republicans to block confirmation votes. >>> a new report out today says the u.s. is stepping up drone strikes in pakistan while preparing to withdraw troops from neighboring afghanistan. the flurry of strikes is pounding taliban targets and reports say thursday's attack was the seventh in just ten days. nbc news foreign correspondent ay
can you be for senator hagel? i mean, in some ways he was the chairman of your -- co-chair of your campaign in 2000. he would seem to be your kind of guy. a veteran. a guy who's been shot at -- >> he's a veteran. he's a friend. and by the way, in this process usually with previous presidents, both republican and democrat, when they're considering nominations they call in the other side and say -- the key members on the other party and say i'm thinking about nominating mr. x, what do you...
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know he won't have the drama or go in to have the hagel fight? >> well, i don't believe he wants any of the fights. i am among those who are surprised that he went with hagel because they could see controversy there. and secretary gates, the democrats like to have a republican defense secretaries, and they feel like it is good optics to have a republican in national security post, and secretary gates was well liked by the republicans even though he was to the left of the center of the bush era on national security establishment. >> which is not very far left. >> still very much center right at least, and hagel did break with the republican colleagues and i think that the white house had no know that there was sort of resentment, and bad blood there. so i'm surprised, but i don't think that he wants a fight. i see the way he abandoned susan rice not the deal with it and they don't want to burn political capital on the bandwidth, but hagel will be okay, and there is going to be a lot of hue and cry, but i don't believe he will be abandoned. >> and
know he won't have the drama or go in to have the hagel fight? >> well, i don't believe he wants any of the fights. i am among those who are surprised that he went with hagel because they could see controversy there. and secretary gates, the democrats like to have a republican defense secretaries, and they feel like it is good optics to have a republican in national security post, and secretary gates was well liked by the republicans even though he was to the left of the center of the...
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hear from senator hagel about the issues. he's a guy with a distinguished record, and i'm going to listen to the answers. >>> thank you all for a terrific discussion this morning. that is all for >>> terrifying accidents. >> oh, that is horrible. good lord. >> up in the thin air. and on the high seas. when danger calls, they are the ones to answer. >> we had him out in seconds. >> seeing this incredible act of instinctive heroism was just amazing. >> amazing acts of courage. >> i asked the man upstairs to help me. >> it was the obvious thing to do. it was the human thing to do. >> lives hanging in the balance. >> i thought he was just knocked unconscious. i tried. >> in times of crisis, they rely on each other. >> i trust these guys with my life. if it took one of them guys going down also, i knew they would do that. we would do that for each other. it's a brotherhood. >> "caught on camera: extreme rescues." welcome to "caught on camera." i'm contessa brewer. you're in a life-or-death situation and you can't help yourself. of
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hear from senator hagel about the issues. he's a guy with a distinguished record, and i'm going to listen to the answers. >> let me get another break in here. we'll be back right after this. hey hun, remember you only need a few sheets. hmph! [ female announcer ] charmin ultra soft is made with extra cushions that are soft and more absorbent. plus you can use four times less. charmin ultra soft. just begin with america's favorite soups. bring out chicken broccoli alfredo. or best-ever meatloaf. go to campbellskitchen.com for recipes, plus a valuable coupon. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> thank you all for a terrific discussion this morning. that is all for today. we'll be back next week. if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." >>> we have resolved the revenue issue and the question is what are we going to do about spending? the time to solve it is now. >> what will that mean for other issues? what about relief for the victims of hurricane sandy? we are going to talk to congressman of new jersey about those who
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you can look at all these candidates, hagel and lew, mainstream candidates who represent the president's positions flawlessly, are a stark contrast with the bush administration, therefore the republicans might have beef with him, but that's just not happening. we're being surprised when clearly it's part of a broader strategy to discredit the very idea of government. yes, the polls show that congress is more unpopular than head lice. >> and cockroaches. >> nickelback. >> castro still slightly more unpopular, but i think they can fix that. long term, that's not how people see it. long term, people go government, can't get anything gun. it casts it on the whole enterprise. >> hans, i want to bring you back in this for a second to talk about the ethicacy of a choice of jack lew as head of the treasury department. when we began this fiscal slope, curve, cliff discussion, tim geithner was involved, there was a sense jack lew would be involved. they were marginalized towards the end, and as glenn mentions, vice president biden was the guy to sweep in at the last minute to make the deal. congre
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you're going to have to consider the confirmations of some of these new cabinet members, what about hagel and john brennan, because they have been controversial and have some opposition. >> well, first of all, with chuck hagel, you have someone who's decorated war hero, you have someone who served well in the senate, who has a lot of support from people. at the same time, you have senators who have legitimate questions. i think what's important here, andrea, we're finally going to have a hearing to have opportunity for the nominee to answer these questions instead of just having his name out there not being able to answer it. you've seen a number of senators that are open minded and give full consideration to his nomination. i was just concerned this kept going without a nominee, now there is a nominee for both positions and all of these concerns, as they should be, should be considered in the process. >> based on what you now know, do you think hagel will be confirmed? >> i have no chrrystal ball, i wouldn't have thought we'd be in the senate at 2:00 in the morning on new year's eve. i d
you're going to have to consider the confirmations of some of these new cabinet members, what about hagel and john brennan, because they have been controversial and have some opposition. >> well, first of all, with chuck hagel, you have someone who's decorated war hero, you have someone who served well in the senate, who has a lot of support from people. at the same time, you have senators who have legitimate questions. i think what's important here, andrea, we're finally going to have a...
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and, you know, his appointment of hagel, i should add is not just about israel. it's much broader than that. i mean, the reasons he's choosing hagel and the responsibilities he will have at the defense department go beyond that. >> national journal's beth reinhard, really interesting. thanks for coming on the program. >> thanks. >>> well the new numbers won't surprise environmental lobbies and they probably confirm what you may have suspected about last year's weather. 2012 was the warmest year on record in the united states. scientists say the average temperature was 55.3 degrees. a degree higher than the previous record set in 1998. it was also 3 degrees above normal. meantime, chicago is on track to break a 72-year long snowless record. if there's no snowfall by the end of today, this will mark the longest stretch without an inch of snow on the ground since 1940. a grand are total of 319 days. chicago usually has almost 12 inches of snow by this time of year. did you know that as we age our need for protein increases, yet many of us don't meet our daily protei
and, you know, his appointment of hagel, i should add is not just about israel. it's much broader than that. i mean, the reasons he's choosing hagel and the responsibilities he will have at the defense department go beyond that. >> national journal's beth reinhard, really interesting. thanks for coming on the program. >> thanks. >>> well the new numbers won't surprise environmental lobbies and they probably confirm what you may have suspected about last year's weather. 2012...
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and chuck hagel was not good at doing that, and he's an individualist. and sometimes he really went out of his way to offend fellow senators. and they haven't forgotten. >> they haven't forgotten. the one senator, fellow senator, that he got along really well with was named barack obama. and that's why he is in the position he's in today, in both ways. he's the nominee because of his close friendship with obama, and he's also not that well loved by -- or well liked, even, by former colleagues. but i think mike allen is absolutely right. we sat there on the set on "meet the press" that day. when chuck schumer said he'd wait and see, that was a deep intake of breath all around the table. >> all right. mike allen, really quickly, the state of the tea party, another piece you have in "politico." >> yeah, they're out of money and even more disorganized than ever. and ironically, if the party take candidates are going to be rescued, it's by the big super pacs in washington. the koch brothers, other washington groups that are now going to be more intervening in
and chuck hagel was not good at doing that, and he's an individualist. and sometimes he really went out of his way to offend fellow senators. and they haven't forgotten. >> they haven't forgotten. the one senator, fellow senator, that he got along really well with was named barack obama. and that's why he is in the position he's in today, in both ways. he's the nominee because of his close friendship with obama, and he's also not that well loved by -- or well liked, even, by former...
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if it's a counter terror mission, the vice president wanted where chuck hagel is going. what's happening in the next 24 months? we have a lot of officers embedded with afghan units to protect a security blanket. at what point do we transition off and go to an assist and what is our relationship post 2014? we can leave contractors on the ground, but iraq didn't deteriorate like people said. there have been no attacks since they left. i'm happy with where we are at. i hope we go to and put the pressure on the afghans. there is a type of stalemate. >> there is the hope, but what is the reality pointing to the continued effort or whatever role we would have as you pointed out s. how realistic is that in afghanistan? >> i don't think we go to zero because there will be a counter trr mission. there is a mission in the afghan and pakistan region. is it a suffice counter terror force with a force package? that takes us out of the nation building and the embedded with the afghan force. we are embedded with that force. we go to an operational level, the president has given us a th
if it's a counter terror mission, the vice president wanted where chuck hagel is going. what's happening in the next 24 months? we have a lot of officers embedded with afghan units to protect a security blanket. at what point do we transition off and go to an assist and what is our relationship post 2014? we can leave contractors on the ground, but iraq didn't deteriorate like people said. there have been no attacks since they left. i'm happy with where we are at. i hope we go to and put the...
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this is a real window into why the president made this tough choice of chuck hagel. and that is we talked to people around the white house who said that the president wants fights with congress. and there's both a short-term strategy here and a long-term strategy. in the short term, the president wants to take advantage of the fact that he's the only person in these negotiations who's not running for re-election. so he can afford to be tough. he can afford to stand up for what he said. second, simple contempt by the president. these republicans who lost to him so badly in 2012, in his view, just won't take yes for an answer. so there's a little bit of exasperation by the president. but pull back the camera, and you see the bigger strategy, which is looking ahead to the midterm elections in 2014. by picking tough fights with the hill, the president uses his office to draw contrast with the republicans might make it easier for house democrats to get a majority back in 2014. it would be a long shot, but that would be bookends for the majority the president started his p
this is a real window into why the president made this tough choice of chuck hagel. and that is we talked to people around the white house who said that the president wants fights with congress. and there's both a short-term strategy here and a long-term strategy. in the short term, the president wants to take advantage of the fact that he's the only person in these negotiations who's not running for re-election. so he can afford to be tough. he can afford to stand up for what he said. second,...
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troops in nato or cutting medicare and i think the american people are on the side of medicare. >> if hagel gets confirmed, do you think you could help him go the job of reforming at the pentagon and saving some money? >> yes, i think -- well, in the first few months i won't be there long enough even if i get it. but the job there is to run interference for him. >> by the way, some basic politics you understand, chris, cutting existing weapons systems with all the web of contracts out there can be hard, but what you can do is not start new once. it's easier to block projects that shouldn't be done going forward than to start them and i certainly will be there if i hope he's going to continue to support the notion of an early withdrawal from afghanistan. not keep 20,000 troops there forever at a cost of billions and finally i think it's time to re-examine a nuclear deterrent which we still maintain basically at the strength we needed to defeat a fully nuclear armed soviet union and the troops in europe. i misspoke when i said pull the troops out of nato. i want us to stay in tay toe but let
troops in nato or cutting medicare and i think the american people are on the side of medicare. >> if hagel gets confirmed, do you think you could help him go the job of reforming at the pentagon and saving some money? >> yes, i think -- well, in the first few months i won't be there long enough even if i get it. but the job there is to run interference for him. >> by the way, some basic politics you understand, chris, cutting existing weapons systems with all the web of...
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chuck hagel was right at the time in criticizing the bush administration on this. that's why it has long struck me you would want a man who does not want to rush into warfare as a first resort sitting there in charge of the pentagon. >> right. mike, on a slightly broader scale, are you at all concerned that this president's rightful desire to get our troops out of these entrenched and intractable conflicts, that this may point to a less vigorous role for the united states in terms of international affairs? >> you know, it's one of the big questions before us, martin, and i am struck that the syrian civil war, where i think there are no good answers and i'm not a big interventionist myself, it may require a little more american and international role than we've been willing to countenance so far for the very reason you mentioned but i'm hopeful president obama is actually going to be pretty careful on his subsequent afghanistan decisions as i think you mentioned. today's press conference did not promise any particular rapid drawdown path. yes, we're hearing a genera
chuck hagel was right at the time in criticizing the bush administration on this. that's why it has long struck me you would want a man who does not want to rush into warfare as a first resort sitting there in charge of the pentagon. >> right. mike, on a slightly broader scale, are you at all concerned that this president's rightful desire to get our troops out of these entrenched and intractable conflicts, that this may point to a less vigorous role for the united states in terms of...
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. >>> and in the big finish tonight, republicans are outraged over chuck hagel's nomination for defense secretary. meanwhile, they have no problem with known conspiracy theorist michele bachmann, congresswoman from minnesota, retaining her seat on the house intelligence committee. remember, it was bachmann who led the witch-hunt against clinton's aide last year. in a wild conspiracy theory, bachmann claimed she had ties to a muslim extremist group. her campaign against muslims included absurd statements like this. >> it appears that there has been deep penetration in the halls of our united states government by the muslim brotherhood. the muslim brotherhood has been found to be an unindicted co-conspirator on terrorism cases, and yet it appears that there are individuals associated with the muslim brotherhood who have positions, very sensitive positions in our department of justice, our department of homeland security, potentially even in the national intelligence agency. >> bachmann's muslim witch-hunt drew a wide range of criticism from both parties. her former presidential campaign c
. >>> and in the big finish tonight, republicans are outraged over chuck hagel's nomination for defense secretary. meanwhile, they have no problem with known conspiracy theorist michele bachmann, congresswoman from minnesota, retaining her seat on the house intelligence committee. remember, it was bachmann who led the witch-hunt against clinton's aide last year. in a wild conspiracy theory, bachmann claimed she had ties to a muslim extremist group. her campaign against muslims included...
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both sides have been critical of chuck hagel for various reasons. in your latest piece, dana, you argue the president should be able to pick whomever he likes. tell me about that. >> you hear a lot of the republicans now saying opposing nominees because he's close to the president or because he shares the president's policies. now, you can argue that maybe the president should not stack his cabinet with yes men. the president himself said he wanted a team of rivals lincoln style cabinet. he's going against that. but the truth is, the president won re-election. he's entitled to name whatever adviser he wants to his cabinet unless that adviser is completely unfit to serve. you can't say i don't like the guy's policies. well then beat the president. beat the democrats in an election and then the republicans get to pick who runs what cabinet agency. >> christina, do you have any sense the white house feels the need to defend the president's picks? >> well, by nominating chuck hagel to be secretary of defense the white house is very much signalling it's
both sides have been critical of chuck hagel for various reasons. in your latest piece, dana, you argue the president should be able to pick whomever he likes. tell me about that. >> you hear a lot of the republicans now saying opposing nominees because he's close to the president or because he shares the president's policies. now, you can argue that maybe the president should not stack his cabinet with yes men. the president himself said he wanted a team of rivals lincoln style cabinet....
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. >> is chuck hagel right for the job? >> sure. >> should we discriminate against them? because they are right for the job. >> so you're suggesting that there are no women as qualified as men for these positions. >> i think the moment has to be right on a number of levels. and i think they're good choices. >> a woman as treasury secretary. there's an opening there. there's an opening at treasury, right? >> joe? >> yes, katty. >> is that photograph that's alongside "the new york times" article yesterday disappointing? of course it's disappointing. to see a roomful of men with the president. it would be hard to say that that wasn't the case, right? but i think if you look at what the president has done in terms of the supreme court and advancing to women there, that is incredibly important. >> hear, hear. >> in terms of -- >> why are you saying that -- >> -- for a long time. i would say as a woman, that's more important to me having three women on the supreme court. >> there you go. >> than perhaps having a cabinet post that's going to come and go. >> as we know, katty, th
. >> is chuck hagel right for the job? >> sure. >> should we discriminate against them? because they are right for the job. >> so you're suggesting that there are no women as qualified as men for these positions. >> i think the moment has to be right on a number of levels. and i think they're good choices. >> a woman as treasury secretary. there's an opening there. there's an opening at treasury, right? >> joe? >> yes, katty. >> is that...